tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post7592122797043296229..comments2024-03-06T06:33:18.841-05:00Comments on Guinness on Tap: Training Progression of Bast: Part 1 LungingAustenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-85002786041975094722017-12-06T11:22:13.608-05:002017-12-06T11:22:13.608-05:00Thanks! Vienna reins make a lot more sense to me w...Thanks! Vienna reins make a lot more sense to me when it comes to teaching a horse to unlock the back/base of neck than side reins. I think the success you had really speaks to the hard work you put in and the way you used your tools.Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-70309574324900059912017-12-06T11:21:26.854-05:002017-12-06T11:21:26.854-05:00I always found after 10 min I had barely gotten th...I always found after 10 min I had barely gotten the horse settled and moving. Haha! I'm so mystified how people manage to keep their times so short!Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-61323713129895086502017-12-06T11:20:43.626-05:002017-12-06T11:20:43.626-05:00I tried to use it to work with Bast on similar thi...I tried to use it to work with Bast on similar things and ended up getting dragged around. Whoops. So glad you had better luck! Carmen seems like she's really coming along!Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-19462145825153471812017-12-06T11:20:04.673-05:002017-12-06T11:20:04.673-05:00It's interesting to me how different disciplin...It's interesting to me how different disciplines use lunging more or less. Like hj seems to use it a lot, but not always very structured. And dressage often uses it a ton in the early training, but very structured. Then eventers ... they kinda do their own thing. Lol! I think we're all basically trying to achieve similar results, but it kinda seems like something where a lot of people have a gap in their education.Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-45240900072276020782017-12-06T11:18:19.506-05:002017-12-06T11:18:19.506-05:00So true! There are definitely a million ways to us...So true! There are definitely a million ways to use tools lunging, and I am definitely no expert! Voice commands are super useful and something I am good at installing, so we've been using those a lot!Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-22578776791306927872017-12-06T11:17:23.997-05:002017-12-06T11:17:23.997-05:00Ground work is so life saving, especially when you...Ground work is so life saving, especially when you own little assholes who tend to think paying attention to human gnats is optional.Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-44433036174979583242017-12-06T11:12:19.378-05:002017-12-06T11:12:19.378-05:00Yeah working through explosive reactions is DEFINI...Yeah working through explosive reactions is DEFINITELY much better done on the ground. Really amazing how far that little horse has come with you! Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-78071428392395891002017-12-06T11:11:30.125-05:002017-12-06T11:11:30.125-05:00Haha! I used it to teach another baby thoroughbred...Haha! I used it to teach another baby thoroughbred similar things. Oddly, Pig straight up refused to balance himself at the canter on the lunge... going so far as to literally fall down. Old man would actually canter around on a tiny circle in complete counter bend. It was amazing, but fucking pointless.Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-55807481770540109372017-12-06T11:10:20.216-05:002017-12-06T11:10:20.216-05:00I definitely have seen it's use with young hor...I definitely have seen it's use with young horses before! And if you have no other way to get the energy out, it's definitely a must!Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-1617541258876429452017-12-06T11:09:31.616-05:002017-12-06T11:09:31.616-05:00Omg. I mean. Maybe she was scared some loud car wo...Omg. I mean. Maybe she was scared some loud car would come out of nowhere looking for said muffler? I'd worry about that... Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-10765093338587156802017-12-06T11:08:56.100-05:002017-12-06T11:08:56.100-05:00Ugh fighting is always so tempting, but the wrong ...Ugh fighting is always so tempting, but the wrong choice! So awesome you found a way around that fight and to a positive solution!Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-38591645888814233012017-12-05T18:33:59.949-05:002017-12-05T18:33:59.949-05:00I use it occasionally either for days where I can&...I use it occasionally either for days where I can't ride or to help her stretch. Sometimes she get's so tight during a ride that she won't allow me to help her flex and stretch and the Vienna reins not only really help but help both of us to not get into a fight about relaxation which is fairly counterproductive it turns out.Piccoloponyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275679567725425281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-10799108170352714622017-11-30T16:01:13.988-05:002017-11-30T16:01:13.988-05:00ahahahah, "horse murder" - My mare saw a...ahahahah, "horse murder" - My mare saw a car muffler on the ground and thought it might do her in. The immobile muffler, completely in view, we'd been walking past for a half-hour that she only noticed when we turned around. Those and deer. Deer are horse murderers, allegedly. SarahWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16182449850066338574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-7289544544179278052017-11-29T18:34:14.185-05:002017-11-29T18:34:14.185-05:00I think lunging definitely has its place in winter...I think lunging definitely has its place in winter months and with young/untrained horse. Sounds like Bast is doing well trying all the horse stuff!! I never lunge Remus but I totally see where people would do so if needed. Enjoy him he is very very cute Bast is!Martidollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02615603986854526853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-81389762608792569552017-11-29T15:00:29.305-05:002017-11-29T15:00:29.305-05:00Lunging and side reins are a favorite tool of mine...Lunging and side reins are a favorite tool of mine. However, it's not for every horse. But i do have lunging to thank for helping to teach a certain Porkchop horse how to balance his giant ass awkward body at the canter. Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11609268980526224486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-66445131908630995692017-11-29T14:22:13.069-05:002017-11-29T14:22:13.069-05:00I like to use it as a tool in the winter months mo...I like to use it as a tool in the winter months more than anything. In the summer I use it sparingly and usually just to get eyes on the horse in motion from the ground because I'm always alone. I've used various gadgets not to try to achieve magical end-goal but mostly to try to instill some boundaries on movement (Q, do you even possess the ability to look like a horse and not a llama if there is contact on the bit any more?) or work out shenanigans without a rider (like when Griffin thought any pressure on the bit warranted an explosive reaction). The majority of the time I lunge these days though is to let the horse figure out balance without a rider through a ground pole exercise or jumping exercise that is very different from what we've tried before. I don't have eyes on the ground to help me fix myself in the moment, so I try to give the horse as much room to find success and understand before I add all of my mistakes to the equation lolLiz Stouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18267806576736655184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-60333794359029600922017-11-29T12:57:09.714-05:002017-11-29T12:57:09.714-05:00I definitely use longeing less as a means of rumpu...I definitely use longeing less as a means of rumpus time and more of a "this is a long rope in which to do ground work" which sounds just like what you're doing! I love me some good ground work. Carlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17308477892024999793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-19982539758936385362017-11-29T11:56:02.452-05:002017-11-29T11:56:02.452-05:00Lunging is a great training tool, I've used si...Lunging is a great training tool, I've used side reins before (on Ramone and Carlos - no side reins at the new barn but we do have a Pessoa system) they can be used incorrectly or ineffectively. When used properly they add just another option in the training of horses. Installing those voice commands is so good and important. Glad things are continuing to progress with Bast!L.Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05052638724440787772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-18626871595496040562017-11-29T10:15:00.570-05:002017-11-29T10:15:00.570-05:00I lunged Miles a decent amount and it definitely h...I lunged Miles a decent amount and it definitely helped with certain things... although I didn't feel like it translated to our under saddle work as well as I would have hoped. But I'm really inexperienced with groundwork and lunging, so I'm sure that was a big part of the problem. Tracy - The Printable Ponyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990038444473790555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-7783950139013574062017-11-29T06:10:06.012-05:002017-11-29T06:10:06.012-05:00I used lunging a lot with Carmen to get her to foc...I used lunging a lot with Carmen to get her to focus on me and learn to work through things without losing her shit and bolting. I found it easier then i the saddle. I don't lunge as much now because she understands better. TeresaAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05311118900077951863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-25101173417390414852017-11-29T00:10:47.757-05:002017-11-29T00:10:47.757-05:00I've used lunging and long lines a lot with St...I've used lunging and long lines a lot with Stinker. It helped put some muscle on him while he was recovering. I never do it for long periods, usually only about 10 minutes lunging or 20 for the long lines since I have more options for directions and straight lines.EventingSaddlebredStylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07610596082916022402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5677504786349906999.post-86952189999098457522017-11-28T23:51:31.663-05:002017-11-28T23:51:31.663-05:00I am not a huge lunging fan--I feel like it adds a...I am not a huge lunging fan--I feel like it adds a lot of potential for repetitive stress injuries without providing enough value to compensate for the risk. <br /><br />That said, I (clearly) used it a lot with Courage and had some interesting breakthroughs. I found conventional side reins to be clunky at best, but had really good luck with Vienna reins. Courage was a horse that held his tension right in front of his withers and they are fantastic for that. If you want to borrow them, let me know. ;-) SprinklerBandithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02948487857418394022noreply@blogger.com